Thursday, May 05, 2005


thirsty

19 Comments:

Anonymous MRSHALL83 said...

Aww!!! Fill up the glass more Mike!!!!! Poor kitty; bad Mike.

11:14 PM  
Blogger michael said...

oh, boo hoo! you just don't know B.C., Val.

and get your computer fixed!

10:17 AM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

What cute kitties! Wyatt wants his very own kitty.

3:52 PM  
Blogger michael said...

I fear to ask why Wyatt would want his own kitty.

8:26 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Wyatt loves all living things. Some he loves a little too roughly, but he means well. He loves the kitty at his vet's office. He has never hurt anything... intentionally. He still wonders why his little spider friends stop playing.

9:33 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

B.C. is a cute name for a cat. Does it stand for anything? (and don't be smart!) What is your other cat's name?

6:48 PM  
Blogger michael said...

if you still want to think B.C. is a nice name, then read no further:

it stands for Boy Cat

sadly, the cats belong to my brother. In my current domicile there is a wicked jet-black cat named Spooks whom I would have thrashed for her surly demeaner by now if she didn't belong to my mousy roommate. I would love to get my own, but "the house" dosn't want anymore cats.

9:11 AM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Well, it's a cute name since it was shortened to B.C., let's put it that way. :-)

So, the chunky, striped cat is your brother's too? How many people and animals do you have in one house? Does the board of health know about it? (Remember one of my interests is being nosy, er, asking questions.)

Sorry about Spooks. I don't know why people keep mean pets, when there are so many nice animals who need a good home being euthanized.

10:23 AM  
Blogger michael said...

well, Spooks was a rescued cat. I'm sure she was made wicked by her past experiences. But you know? I really don't care. No one cares why I'm so wicked, right?

yes, Max is my bro's too. They're his kids, and now he's getting a wife to mother them. We're having their engagement party/my graduation party today. I think DHS shouldn't be too bothered by their circumstances...

10:55 AM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Congratulations to all! I hope you have a great party.

And I was wondering concerning your and your roommate's place, not your brother's. ;-)

11:30 AM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

OK, the prior reference to the board of health was meant strictly as a joke. I was not casting aspersions on you, your roomie, your brother, or any of the felines.

You know I can't stand it if I think I've hurt someone's feelings.

9:10 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Aggie, I'm gonna look up aspersion and get back to you, but in the mean time I want you to know that I love that sort of joking. It is my normal state of mind - Brad can confirm (in fact, I think he may have deleted a recent comment-joke I left on his site for that very reason, because I went too far. I can't even remember whether or not I hit submit... too tired...) I assumed you were kidding - in fact, I would have been very surprised to learn that you were serious.

So, no worries, right?

11:45 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Right. The problem with written communication is that it is difficult to judge someone's tone, so I could not tell if you were offended by my comment or not.

You have seen that I'm rarely serious about anything. In fact, I have almost made humorous comments on some of the discussions on B-man's blog that, in retrospect, I am glad I didn't, like when they were having the heated discussion on alcohol, I wanted to add, "I'll drink to that!". :-)

Well, tootle-pip, I'm off to the wonderful "special" service. I told V that if there's dancing in the aisles, I'm outta there.

11:09 AM  
Blogger michael said...

that would have been hilarious if you'd left that comment. That girl was messed up and couldn't distinguish between the sins of the person who hurt her and the alcohol that she associated with him. Really, she had much deeper issues than a mere difference of opinion. I was bummed that Brad changed his profile for her, but I respected him for it all the same...

why the aversion to dancing? didn't David make a fool of himself for the Lord? If I wasn't so darn inhibited, I would love to break it out - that would freak out many in my church, I'm sure...

3:34 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Looks like we get to start a whole new discussion here! My problem with dancing or any other display of emotion in church is where does it stop? I would like to ask the people who promote dancing, hand-waving (I always want to run over and give them a high 5 when they're holding their hands up in the air) or similar displays, what about displays of despair and sadness? If we can jump for joy, then why can't we fall down in the middle of the service and wail over our sins? Where does it end? Do we set aside a part of the service for everyone to exhibit their spontaneous joy or whatever? Otherwise, it doesn't take much of that to produce chaos. In the NT, I think that is exactly what they were trying to nip in the bud. Things had gotten out of hand.

Second, one can feel joy without jumping up and down about it. I think it's done too often to show others how spiritual one is. We are cautioned to not make a display of religiosity. (pray and fast in secret, etc.)

Third, emotions, like everything else, are tainted by sin, and I think we are more prone to sin through our emotions than even by our reason. Yes, that's just my opinion, but I do believe that things like anger and even love cause us to do things our rational thoughts would not. It's also easy to fake emotions, especially for attention.

Fourth, I'm a big fan of "everything decently and in order".

Fifth, I knew you'd bring up that passage. All I can say is that he was dancing during the big procession leading to the tabernacle. More like a parade than a worship service. I know that's weak; but it's the best I can do.

5:09 PM  
Blogger michael said...

well, in quick response (not much time...):

one, should that be your concern? it seems that the chaos that was being opposed (you're speaking of Corinthians?) was more to do with the speaking in tongues, ie the handling of preaching and prophecying

two, is there room for liberty in the expression of joy? or must all joy be subdued to one person's (or group's) preferred mode of expression? we are indeed so cautioned (about displays for public consumption), and I suspect that the Spirit convicts the true believers who go too far - at least, I know my charismatic friends make fun of their associates who get silly

three, Aquinas would be proud. only a presbyterian could make that argument! :) the intellect is just as depraved and fallen as the affect. I wonder: if we intellect-worshippers had not run the emotional people out of our churches, would we together have found a way to express joy that could unite the body with the mind, resulting in a worship of God that united heart, soul, mind and strength? and don't we sinfully appropriate our intellects to justify a great many of the things we should or should not be doing, both inside and outside of the church? who knows...

four, ok, but see five

five, I agree - that was pretty weak :) and there was nothing decent about his worship...

I think there must be a cultural aspect to this. It seems impossible to me that there can be only one divinely-approved culture. And here in the states, there is a mixing of cultures so that no...

you know, this will just go on and on...

7:21 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

Whoa! You skipped right over the tricky question of what happens if everyone starts expressing their joy all at once or at random times during a worship service. And why just joy? Are not people overcome by other emotions as well? What would you do with people who started wailing and falling on the floor? Pretty soon you have a Benny Hinn spectacle on your hands.

You say the Spirit convicts some who go too far, but just how do they know when the Spirit is telling them to stop or go? Also, if you truly believe that there is liberty in how one expresses joy, then how can your charismatic friends call anyone else's expression silly? It ought to be "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" for whatever people feel moved to do. Have you read MacArthur's book, "Charismatic Chaos", BTW?

I don't believe it is a cultural issue at all. You just can't have everyone doing their own thing during a worship service.

Yes, the intellect is just as depraved and fallen as all other parts of us, but the emotions are what people put on display most frequently.

I did not say that David was doing things decently and in order, merely that he was participating in a parade at the time, not a service to God in the tabernacle. (That's still the best I can do.)

Every week the pastor at the local PCA goes on about how Presbyterians ought to be more expressive. Why? Why is being more expressive better than being less so? And when do you know when you are "just right" in expressing things? Can't you express your joy by doing a kindness for someone rather than by flailing about like a stranded fish? I am so very tempted at times to jump up and go boogeying down the aisle just to see what the pastor would do... except of course that my husband and V would have me put in a home.

" I wonder: if we intellect-worshippers had not run the emotional people out of our churches"...and on that point I can say with lots of bouncing up and down and clapping of hands that you are full of baloney! Do you have proof that this has ever happened?

An elder told me this story, and it's true: Someone came through the front door of church one Sunday and approached this elder telling him that the Holy Spirit had told him to come speak to our congregation that day. The elder replied that the Holy Spirit had told him to usher the guy out the front door. Who heard the Spirit correctly?

Is your church EPC?

8:45 PM  
Blogger michael said...

Aggie, with all due respect, I elect not to continue this conversation.

9:01 PM  
Anonymous aggiesoonermom said...

But it was just getting good! You can tell me I'm full of baloney. How about if I pay for 5 more minutes of arguing like the guy in the Monty Python argument sketch?

Oh, alright then. :-(

12:52 AM  

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